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Makedonskiy

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Registered: 2020-11-20

Posts: 108

Anonymity. Expensive pleasure?

Oh, that brings me to mind. Apparently, not everyone who knows the word "anonymity" understands the word in its full sense.

So what is anonymity? The root of the word goes back to the word "noname" and its progenitors. And by name, as we know, a person can be identified, and surveillance can be organised. So it turns out that anonymity as an attribute of any action is the absence of any trace leading to the identification of the real name of its perpetrator.

Now, let's get to the subject of the monologue. How realistic is real anonymity? In what ways can a person be de-anonymised online? Which ones are most often used by law enforcement agencies, and how did famous spies fail?

For example, a group of Richard Sorge (a famous Soviet spy) was caught on a band-aided radio, at one of the points from which he was regularly sending information. And when they caught the group - they could not believe their eyes: they believed to the last that Sorge was a simple German journalist.

There are stories of how someone blabbed when drunk and one of the spies once forgot a briefcase with copies of important documents in a bar. The briefcase was opened by the special services, who were summoned to the scene and thought it might contain an explosive device.

But those were things that happened in the past. But what about today? How did they catch the owner of the famous Silk Road site?

Very simple. Ridiculously simple. Following the text of the indictment revealing the details of the operation to de-anonymise him, this was done using the usual open sources: comparing dates, activity and the very information that could be obtained. The funny thing is, the man wasn't really hiding anything, it was enough to do a lot of systematic work without involving a huge number of specialists, the more so because on linked.in this man didn't even hide that he was going to create something similar (we are talking about Silk Road).

So what is the main enemy of a person who wants to remain anonymous? The answer is simple and banal - himself. If you register at the U and choose the same nickname you have on public sites, then you can forget about anonymity once and for all: Anyone can easily google, and find your profiles in social networks and God knows where else, without resorting to special means.

Anonymity is not a set of tools. Since the main problem with anonymity is the human factor (and we all live in society), the problem is multiplied by exactly how many people are able to see you. You may be a good salesman and be incognito online, but if the barmaid at the doorway sees you driving an expensive car and doesn't know what you're doing, they will eventually become suspicious, and then you'll be reported.

The same is true for other places where you live. There is one harmful characteristic of the man: he tends to fill the vacuum of information with all sorts of speculation. If you do not fill the vacuum in time you need information, he will do it himself, or someone will do it for you, and, as you know, there are no guarantees.

Going back to the question. Anonymity is a way of thinking and therefore, a way of life. True anonymous are scouts who give themselves away (and usually everything is documented!), who knows the enemy's language perfectly well, and who lead a double or even triple life, but they too can make mistakes, and they are usually caused by human error. 

Pay close attention to detail! It's the best thing you can do to protect your information.

I hope I have been helpful.

TheMerchant

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Registered: 2020-11-20

Posts: 68

Re: Anonymity. Expensive pleasure?

Nice post. Yes, online anonymity requires great vigilance and discipline, most don't make the required effort, or at least do not sustain that effort indefinitely, since the internet has a very long memory.

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Unstressed

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Registered: 2021-01-19

Posts: 27

Re: Anonymity. Expensive pleasure?

With the advent of Utopia - not)

youtube

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Registered: 2021-09-20

Posts: 30

Re: Anonymity. Expensive pleasure?

I will never forget reading Richard Feynman's autobiography. When he started working on the creation of a nuclear bomb, he arrived in a very protected area where many scientists worked. At that time, he began to get interested in breaking locks, it became very interesting to him. One evening, he decided to try to crack a very simple lock of the cabinet door with glass inserts. When he did this, he was amazed, behind this door there were secret documents about the creation of a nuclear bomb. And then think for yourself

CleverGUY28

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Registered: 2021-09-21

Posts: 16

Re: Anonymity. Expensive pleasure?

I will never forget reading Richard Feynman's autobiography. When he started working on the creation of a nuclear bomb, he arrived in a very protected area where many scientists worked. At that time, he began to get interested in breaking locks, it became very interesting to him. One evening, he decided to try to crack a very simple lock of the cabinet door with glass inserts. When he did this, he was amazed, behind this door there were secret documents about the creation of a nuclear bomb. And then think for yourself

A very good example, boy. It's good that you remembered

sergo77

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From: spain

Registered: 2021-11-09

Posts: 20

Re: Anonymity. Expensive pleasure?

They are watching us and every time it will be more difficult I think

Cromanes

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Registered: 2021-12-10

Posts: 316

Re: Anonymity. Expensive pleasure?

Oh, that brings me to mind. Apparently, not everyone who knows the word "anonymity" understands the word in its full sense.

So what is anonymity? The root of the word goes back to the word "noname" and its progenitors. And by name, as we know, a person can be identified, and surveillance can be organised. So it turns out that anonymity as an attribute of any action is the absence of any trace leading to the identification of the real name of its perpetrator.

Now, let's get to the subject of the monologue. How realistic is real anonymity? In what ways can a person be de-anonymised online? Which ones are most often used by law enforcement agencies, and how did famous spies fail?

For example, a group of Richard Sorge (a famous Soviet spy) was caught on a band-aided radio, at one of the points from which he was regularly sending information. And when they caught the group - they could not believe their eyes: they believed to the last that Sorge was a simple German journalist.

There are stories of how someone blabbed when drunk and one of the spies once forgot a briefcase with copies of important documents in a bar. The briefcase was opened by the special services, who were summoned to the scene and thought it might contain an explosive device.

But those were things that happened in the past. But what about today? How did they catch the owner of the famous Silk Road site?

Very simple. Ridiculously simple. Following the text of the indictment revealing the details of the operation to de-anonymise him, this was done using the usual open sources: comparing dates, activity and the very information that could be obtained. The funny thing is, the man wasn't really hiding anything, it was enough to do a lot of systematic work without involving a huge number of specialists, the more so because on linked.in this man didn't even hide that he was going to create something similar (we are talking about Silk Road).

So what is the main enemy of a person who wants to remain anonymous? The answer is simple and banal - himself. If you register at the U and choose the same nickname you have on public sites, then you can forget about anonymity once and for all: Anyone can easily google, and find your profiles in social networks and God knows where else, without resorting to special means.

Anonymity is not a set of tools. Since the main problem with anonymity is the human factor (and we all live in society), the problem is multiplied by exactly how many people are able to see you. You may be a good salesman and be incognito online, but if the barmaid at the doorway sees you driving an expensive car and doesn't know what you're doing, they will eventually become suspicious, and then you'll be reported.

The same is true for other places where you live. There is one harmful characteristic of the man: he tends to fill the vacuum of information with all sorts of speculation. If you do not fill the vacuum in time you need information, he will do it himself, or someone will do it for you, and, as you know, there are no guarantees.

Going back to the question. Anonymity is a way of thinking and therefore, a way of life. True anonymous are scouts who give themselves away (and usually everything is documented!), who knows the enemy's language perfectly well, and who lead a double or even triple life, but they too can make mistakes, and they are usually caused by human error. 

Pay close attention to detail! It's the best thing you can do to protect your information.

I hope I have been helpful.

As for me it is fizic and abrasive that it is not possible to be absolutely anonymous. After all any matra saying that "you are obliged to do this, that and the other to be exclusively anonymous, on the ground so that after your foot did not leave a trace on the ground" is absolutely not possible, and as for me it seems not necessary to achieve this synthetic stupidity and at desire and your potential value you anyway will find and no matter how much time to it will need. Observing such radical mantras on absolutely 0 information will not leave and you are not capable to do such by the nature and more to say you will go to the roof. I can offer only one thing, it is to use a measure of dispossession not over occupying obsession of the given idea not to ruin your valuable life which you can waste on more important for you affairs, and partly to accept that it is not possible and more so to say to stir up new paints of the information portrait for complexity of tracing by you of undesirable people.

Cromanes

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Registered: 2021-12-10

Posts: 316

Re: Anonymity. Expensive pleasure?

<p>I will never forget reading Richard Feynman&#039;s autobiography. When he started working on the creation of a nuclear bomb, he arrived in a very protected area where many scientists worked. At that time, he began to get interested in breaking locks, it became very interesting to him. One evening, he decided to try to crack a very simple lock of the cabinet door with glass inserts. When he did this, he was amazed, behind this door there were secret documents about the creation of a nuclear bomb. And then think for yourself</p>

If you look at the side of "Utopia" then partly it will also contain some crumbs of information about you, and there will be a technical solution such as discentarization and so on, but in fact the account you create is saved in the ecosystem "Utopia", yes in fact you can delete the case found it, but not completely and if you want you can still restore it a matter of effort. As for me, it is not even worth to hammer on this topic and observe not mediocre and simple rules of working with the network.

Posi

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Registered: 2022-01-01

Posts: 34

Re: Anonymity. Expensive pleasure?

If you look at the side of "Utopia" then partly it will also contain some crumbs of information about you

What information are you relating to? Because I dont see any reason Utopia will contain crumb information since your private information is needed to participate in their ecosystem if the user dont doxxed his/herself.

and there will be a technical solution such as discentarization

discentarization ?

Last edited by Posi (2022-01-04 23:10:12)

Cromanes

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Registered: 2021-12-10

Posts: 316

Re: Anonymity. Expensive pleasure?

<div class="quotebox"><cite>Cromanes;1293 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>If you look at the side of &quot;Utopia&quot; then partly it will also contain some crumbs of information about you</p></div></blockquote></div><p>What information are you relating to? Because I dont see any reason Utopia will contain crumb information since your private information is needed to participate in their ecosystem if the user dont doxxed his/herself.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Cromanes;1293 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p> and there will be a technical solution such as discentarization</p></div></blockquote></div><p> discentarization ?</p>

They are actually inside the ecosystem, whether they are accessible or not. The fact is that the information is created and it is there.

Ouch. My mistake. Decentralization.

Posi

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Registered: 2022-01-01

Posts: 34

Re: Anonymity. Expensive pleasure?

<div class="quotebox"><cite>Posi;1309 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>&lt;div class=&quot;quotebox&quot;&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Cromanes;1293 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you look at the side of &amp;quot;Utopia&amp;quot; then partly it will also contain some crumbs of information about you&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;What information are you relating to? Because I dont see any reason Utopia will contain crumb information since your private information is needed to participate in their ecosystem if the user dont doxxed his/herself.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div class=&quot;quotebox&quot;&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Cromanes;1293 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt; and there will be a technical solution such as discentarization&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt; discentarization ?&lt;/p&gt;</p></div></blockquote></div><p>They are actually inside the ecosystem, whether they are accessible or not. The fact is that the information is created and it is there.</p><p>Ouch. My mistake. Decentralization.</p>

Wait, I understand that there will be some information inside the ecosystem but you seem not to understand my point because the information required to use the Utopia app and other services doesn't require information that will dox their user.
This is the reason why I said "if the user don't doxxed his/herself." or there's something I don't know consider user private information?

Cromanes

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Registered: 2021-12-10

Posts: 316

Re: Anonymity. Expensive pleasure?

<div class="quotebox"><cite>Cromanes;1335 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div><p>&lt;div class=&quot;quotebox&quot;&gt;&lt;cite&gt;Posi;1309 wrote:&lt;/cite&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;p&gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;quotebox&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;cite&amp;gt;Cromanes;1293 wrote:&amp;lt;/cite&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;If you look at the side of &amp;amp;quot;Utopia&amp;amp;quot; then partly it will also contain some crumbs of information about you&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt;What information are you relating to? Because I dont see any reason Utopia will contain crumb information since your private information is needed to participate in their ecosystem if the user dont doxxed his/herself.&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div class=&amp;quot;quotebox&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&amp;lt;cite&amp;gt;Cromanes;1293 wrote:&amp;lt;/cite&amp;gt;&amp;lt;blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt; and there will be a technical solution such as discentarization&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/blockquote&amp;gt;&amp;lt;/div&amp;gt;&amp;lt;p&amp;gt; discentarization ?&amp;lt;/p&amp;gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p&gt;They are actually inside the ecosystem, whether they are accessible or not. The fact is that the information is created and it is there.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;Ouch. My mistake. Decentralization.&lt;/p&gt;</p></div></blockquote></div><p>Wait, I understand that there will be some information inside the ecosystem but you seem not to understand my point because the information required to use the Utopia app and other services doesn&#039;t require information that will dox their user.<br />This is the reason why I said &quot;if the user don&#039;t doxxed his/herself.&quot; or there&#039;s something I don&#039;t know consider user private information?</p>

I see what you mean, that's right. The question I was voicing here is that you are using utopia to create information about yourself, albeit private, but still remaining information. For absolute anonymity there should be no such thing.